DeerBalls
12 hours ago
For life of me, the goings on about insider sales IS BEYOND BELIEF:
So, for one, the insider sales taking place when they do, will not take place later on a run... Already done.
NUMBER TWO, AND MUCH BIGGER: So, I believe/hope a deal comes prior to any trials, BUT IF NOT, THE LEGAL FEES WILL RUN IN THE $MILLIONS. WHERE WILL THESE $MILLIONS COME FROM????? Much from Emil/Barbara, so you think they might be playing safe, building funds? Could that be?????? Do you honestly think Barbara is happy to be selling at this level? I doubt it.
VPLM went up a bit, DID VPLM RELEASE DAMAGE ESTIMATES? Boy, they must have....Wink, wink!
Just relax, more going on than meets the eye... Ray Leon and the other advisors would suggest that, don't you think?
Conversed with Rich earlier, he is well...
The the clueless goings on and on about "material info": VPLM IS AUDITED AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH OTCQB STANDARDS... If it were necessary for VPLM to release damage estimates, THEY HAVEN'T, SO THEY WOULD BE OUT OF AUDITING COMPLIANCE...
nyt
2 days ago
Funny thing..... Still not a single person has offered a single example of a law or a judges legal opinion, that shows there is some material benefit of positive IPR trial outcomes, to a patent owner suing for infringement. Strangely enough, but totally in keeping with the plethora of false ideas, opinions and narratives commonly found on the Vplm msg board, so far THAT is the ONLY place where such opinion can be found. And not just found, but actually shown there to be THE PREMIER number one reason, given by the highest number of ppl, quite often and more widely accepted as gospel than anything else. I suspect than anything else because there simply IS nothing else found here or anywhere else that shows, proves or validates that the patents actually live up to the hype assigned to them by Vplm, in terms of their baseline, necessary, foundational attributes, which includes the claim that voip services cannot be provided without the use of these patents.
I've noted it many times but due to the, in my opinion, fallacious beliefs as to the attributes and actual abilities, I have to keep noting that when the ptab trials result in a positive result for the plaintiff, THAT is no more of a validation than the original act of issuing the application patenthood. The law states that a patent is (of course) assumed to be valid from birth and including all the specific challenges that an IPR challenge might question. And that is because of the exhaustive work the USPTO examiners do as part of thetir procecution of the patent. That why it tabkes so long to get a patent. Of course, the examiner, being human, could have missed something or made a mistake. That's normally not the true reason the challengers start an ipr as they are more of an "throw stuff against the wall and hope something sticks". and unfortunately, often times, something does stick. I have little doubt that would've been the case for Vplm as well, but it's no secret that vplm's 100% record with the ptab, which was and is, as far as I know, up til then and since, totally UNPRECEDENTED, is the result of the also unprecedented and very powerful series of around 5 letters written by the esteemed former ceo Tom Sawyer, with his threat of federal Rico charges against the well known corrupt leader and panel judges. THAT is the reason for the so called "wins".
Thus I find it largely disingenuous or biased or agendized, that so many pro vplm voices keep bringing up their CLEARLY NUMBER 1 reason given for their belief in how and why Vplm will eventually come out a winner in court or by virtue of settlements.
IT IS A FALSE REASON! and will in my opinion, in the end, prove itself to be the very downfall of this play. .
Where are the judicially derived indicators that IPR wins are a big benefit?
Where are the results of the alleged core patents worldwide nodal testing?
Where is any proof that is equal to the alleged 25 or so voip engineers at a cost of some $17 million to create them? Where is anyone with that level of knowledge who can and will step up to validate they are "ALL THAT"??
Why is it that some here insist that some other company's alleged expert, in court, who testified about their use of relays, is believed to be some big deal when relays, which are not part of Vplm patents, are as common as doorknobs. Relays are simply common electromagnetic switches and are used in a huge portion of electronics simply for switching purposes. I can see no way the use of relays would be pivotal. And relays are hardware components. The patents are software.
And last but by no means least,
nyt
3 days ago
The shareholder and insider selling continues....
It's no surprise... The poor shareholders are so underwater for so long, they're all wrinkled and sick and tired of all the fails to make a dime in 27 yrs for them as they watch the insiders get richer and richer everyday......you know....the ones like lord emu of eGipped, who were found guilty of "breach of Fiduciary Duty" AND "unjust personal enrichment" BY A JURY OF THEIR PEERS!
So that is just too much to keep swallowing...
And they keep seeing the pps dropping daily for months...
So they figure a few bucks is better than nothing and sell. Can't blame them. 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 27 years is long time to wait and watch your investment money do nothing while at the same time see the emu and wife make literally millions. Pretty simple and straightforward there. Easy to PROCESS..
It's amusing to see how as the various trials allegedly get closer, the pps keeps tanking. It shows me that all involved know stuff that the shareholders don't know.
Meanwhile, the inside, the cabal, supporters, the lawyers, certain judges, the USPTO, etc etc.....ALL CONTINUE TO GET THEIR SHARE OF YOUR MONEY.
Like it or lump it.
I don't expect to ever get my 50 cents so I've mentally written those shares off. Luckily I was able to also make bank before my self promise to never buy any more Vplm. And THAT was a real good decision as had I bought more, it would've all been lost. So I made out good and I know the 50 cent miracle ain't never gonna happen so I'm good just letting the nefarious ways of Vplm be known to those who can see and hear.
best P.O.S. ition EVER!
patience is a HURTue!
That'll be the Vplm legacy once the fiat share printing/selling machine finally burns itself out or they get shut down.
Don't forget that lord emu came from the hotbed of Canadian and otc pennystock scams, Vancouver. Sayani and Waggett also, the Howe st thugs I think they're called. As pumpers, Vplm has paid them many millions.
After running his hotel into BK and totally embarrassing himself in court, TWICE, per Cameron......emu decided he would get back.
By the way can anyone find a single word, a single mention, a single listing, any iota of evidence that there is that biotech cancer research company in Germany emu claims to have founded? What if someone wants to make a donation? It doesn't exist. It appears to steal the name of a well known American cancer research company that has nothing to do with him, but he likes to keep mentioning it everytime he puts out something like the paid "op-eds" so I searched and searched hi and low, even in German listing's.........and guess what? And how are his operas and children's books doing?
And the beat goes on.....
VVVVVV
3 days ago
Hey Chick Hick….beep beep
You know what I meant by shareholders have a right to “KNOWING” DAMAGES sought by VPLM! Just as well as you that was a typo aka ATTACK! As you’re doing now.
Again Amazon wouldn’t allow us to benefit from this settlement, that’s why it’s a mystery to everyone.
As for the so called $ .20 for Emil to sell was tongue in cheek! See, it’s all about processing everything. You’re just not capable!
The run to $.45 was of course due to the previous forecast for billions that was blasted to the market. Process it, pal. Winning the IPR’s of court initiated the run DUE TO THE MARKET AND SHAREHOLDERS KNOWING THE POTENTIAL VALUE! Now, can you understand and comprehend this?
As for insider selling not bothering you! Are you kidding me, you called the company crying that you were going to sell because of all the insider selling! And you were told to go ahead and sell. Stop the BS!
The only surprise about the Amazon deal is the shareholders got shunned!!
So, keep in mind, that could very well happen again if things keep going the way you think they should.
Wow, a $.60 target. That would be caving on an acquisition. But you can’t process it. You just want any buyout just to liquidate all your shares. I guess you’re getting scared you’ll have to deposit your shares and the cost and trouble is probably more than the current PPS! LMAO
You know nothing! You’re just a little man with no confidence in himself. It appears you’re not a happy person and it shows. I’m just not going let a loser like you bully me.
IMHO
DeerBalls
3 days ago
I don't process? LOL What I definitely DO NOT DO is want to "ATTACH anyone", whether or not they agree with me.
"SHAREHOLDERS HAVE A RIGHT TO DAMAGES SOUGHT."?????? So, if VPLM seeks $100B, we just get them? What? If you meant shareholders have a right TO KNOW damages sought, YOU ARE WRONG, 100%. I think my Series 7 score was 91% or 92%...YOU ARE WRONG. "Materiality" refers to company operations and such, NOT WHAT SOME "INVESTOR THINKS SHE NEEDS TO KNOW" to make an investment decision. SAWEE!
VPLM caved to amzn, ONE OF THE LARGEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, because VPLM agreed to an NDA?????? REALLY? EMIL/VPLM ATTORNEYS GOT A SETTLEMENT. We do have a great group of ATTORNEYS working on our behalf! NDAS ARE USED ALL OVER THE BUSINESS WORLD!!! Again, we have attorneys on this!!!
So, it was ok FOR YOU, a few years back, to "YELL" @ Emil to sell @ $.20, but my $.20/$.30 estimate was a problem?????? My target is now $.60; you forgot to mention that. I'm hoping for much more.
The run to $.45 had NOTHING to do with "BLASTED" damage estimates, IT HAD TO DO WITH WINNING IPRs....HELLLLOOOOO. Putting 2 and 2 together, if the damage estimates were 10s of $BILLIONS back a few years, one could surmise THEY'VE GONE UP and really, with needed precision, THE ESTIMATES ARE KNOWN!!!
The stock market is a mechanism which functions on imperfect information...VPLM, due its nature, takes this imperfect information factor to another level. OUR PROCESS TAKES PLACE BETWEEN ATTORNEYS. I know and accept what I DON'T KNOW. THE INFORMATION EMIL/RICH/OUR ATTORNEYS POSSESS IS MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE THAN US SHAREHOLDERS... A big difference between you and me is I accept this and I DO NOT TRY TO ADVISE EMIL AND TEAM!
As to the insider selling that so many want to go on about, it doesn't bother me in the least....DO REMEMBER, EMIL TURNED DOWN Gil Amelio TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $.18/SHARE, JUST FOR EMIL'S HOLDINGS.... Glad he did!
Last thing, to those not happy with VPLM, there is a simple, simple solution. Oh, "surprises"? Was the amzn deal a surprise? Was to me. Ray Leon and the new, SIGNED ON, advisors a surprise? Was to me....
Ok, one more "last thing"....YOU CHANGED THE TERMS,,,YOU SAID THE PRICE WOULD CONTINUE TO DROP WITHOUT DAMAGE ESTIMATES...I opposed this @ $.0126. There was nothing said about a price rise qualifier due to us getting closer to trials. Sure, just change your words as we go. STILL THINK EMIL SHOULD SELL @ $.20?
BY FAR AND AWAY, I AM MORE EXCITED THAN EVER WITH OUR PROSPECTS AND IN THE VERY NEAR TERM...NO ONE ELSE HAS TO BE, BUT I KNOW SOME WHO ARE, ONE WITH OVER 200mm SHARES....
Talk about not being about to process things.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’ve never offered any substance with any of your posts. ZERO. All you want to do is attach anyone that doesn’t agree with you.
First of all, SHAREHOLDERS HAVE A RIGHT TO DAMAGES SOUGHT. DAMAGES ARE MATERIAL INFORMATION ESPECIALLY WHEN A COMPANY BASES ITS SOLE VALUE ON ENFORCEMENT. SHAREHOLDERS AND POTENTIAL SHAREHOLDERS NEED TO KNOW WHAT DAMAGES ARE BEING SOUGHT IN LITIGATION TO MAKE INVESTMENT DECISIONS.
Why in the world would VPLM agree to sign a NDA, to not disclose to the public the damages? Talk about caving. How about caving to Amazon in the first MG, case. BTW, regarding caving. I first was referring to your inept evaluation of VPLM’s patents, when you felt a measly $.20-.30 is an acceptable amount on a buyout. If one would process that, it would equate to an amount with just one case.
To accept a measly $.30 or even $.50 IMHO would be caving. Remember Emil has a few billion shares, how in the world is he going to sell all those shares? We’d all love a buyout with a reasonable fair PPS. Not so you with all your restricted shares, can liquidate as well.
As for when VPLM ran to $.30, $.40, “no damages estimated then”. REALLY, VPLM BLASTED A NUMBER OF TIMES TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES. I believe I even remember $102 billion total, if iI’m not mistaken. So, I call BULLSHIT on this.
Additionally, I’ve never mentioned anything regarding 10%.
Again, the PPS is falling and will keep falling IMHO. Eventually the PPS will rise as we get closer to trial before damages are announced. Gee, you’re really going out on a limb. Huh. Thus, far it’s falling and I anticipate it will continue . FACT.
IMHO
VVVVVV
3 days ago
Talk about not being about to process things.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’ve never offered any substance with any of your posts. ZERO. All you want to do is attach anyone that doesn’t agree with you.
First of all, SHAREHOLDERS HAVE A RIGHT TO DAMAGES SOUGHT. DAMAGES ARE MATERIAL INFORMATION ESPECIALLY WHEN A COMPANY BASES ITS SOLE VALUE ON ENFORCEMENT. SHAREHOLDERS AND POTENTIAL SHAREHOLDERS NEED TO KNOW WHAT DAMAGES ARE BEING SOUGHT IN LITIGATION TO MAKE INVESTMENT DECISIONS.
Why in the world would VPLM agree to sign a NDA, to not disclose to the public the damages? Talk about caving. How about caving to Amazon in the first MG, case. BTW, regarding caving. I first was referring to your inept evaluation of VPLM’s patents, when you felt a measly $.20-.30 is an acceptable amount on a buyout. If one would process that, it would equate to an amount with just one case.
To accept a measly $.30 or even $.50 IMHO would be caving. Remember Emil has a few billion shares, how in the world is he going to sell all those shares? We’d all love a buyout with a reasonable fair PPS. Not so you with all your restricted shares, can liquidate as well.
As for when VPLM ran to $.30, $.40, “no damages estimated then”. REALLY, VPLM BLASTED A NUMBER OF TIMES TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES. I believe I even remember $102 billion total, if iI’m not mistaken. So, I call BULLSHIT on this.
Additionally, I’ve never mentioned anything regarding 10%.
Again, the PPS is falling and will keep falling IMHO. Eventually the PPS will rise as we get closer to trial before damages are announced. Gee, you’re really going out on a limb. Huh. Thus, far it’s falling and I anticipate it will continue . FACT.
IMHO
DeerBalls
4 days ago
$.0126.."You hea(r)d"??? Not from "anyone in the know". The settlement is under AN NDA...NOBODY OF SUBSTANCE IS GOING TO SAY ANYTHING!
"...hope VPLM doesn't cave AGAIN"????? WE HAVE GREAT ATTORNEYS WORKING ON OUR BEHALF!!! There has been no "caving"!
Additionly, there is no 10% threshold for public companies to report settlements/damages...reporting requirements are whether or not the agreement is "material".
NDAs DO APPLY TO AND ARE USED BY PUBLIC COMPANIES ALL THE TIME
Lastly, you have suggested the pps will keep falling until our damage estimates are public....REALLY? How did we ever have separate runs to $.30/$.35/$.45 and just last year to $.11? No damage estimates then... I'LL TAKE THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR CALL. The pps will rise before damage estimates are released! Mark it: $.0126..
Folks, hang in there, there a ton going on behind the scenes; A TON! I do not want this to go to trial, I WANT IT DONE BEFORE! We go to trial and without some agreement, we are years out!
Don't believe we "are entitled" to info just because someone claims it to be "material"!
We have great attorneys, a strong willed Emil working on shareholder value... A TON HAPPENING NOW and all the questioning regarding strategy helps NO ONE, nor is it constructive; OUR TEAM KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING!
That’s the question. From what I’ve head, Amazon wouldn’t allow us to benefit from the so called settlement and not allow us to announce whatever it was!
Sure hope VPLM doesn’t cave again to this, going forward.
INHO
nyt
4 days ago
I know it looks that way but as I've been saying for yrs, well, I predicted 10 more yrs of this crap, 5 yrs ago so I think at least another 5 or more.....because never forget that the BIG, MEAN GREEN, FIAT SHARE PRINTING & SELLING MACHINE HAS BEEN WELL MAINTAINED AND IS STILL I PERFECT WORKING ORDER, SO IT'S PROBABLY NEVER ENOUGH FOR THE BENEFICIARIES, LORD EMU OF eGIPPED & QUEEN SELLSALOT, ETC, SO ROUND AND ROUND IT GOES. WHERE IT STOPS NOBODY KNOWS. IT WON'T BE SETTLEMENTS OR TRIALS.
WHERE ARE THOSE DANG GLOBAL NODAL TEST RESULTS DAMMIT?
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